Comments on: The “Lay ‘Er Down” Myth

By: motorman10647

motorman10647 — Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:37:46 +0000

Locking up your brakes means you. Need to practice your braking skills most do not n the outcome has consequences

By: motorman10647

motorman10647 — Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:34:05 +0000

Most motorcyclist do not practice braking , let alone Threshold Braking, Braken n Escape or Collision Avoidance. Training at the entry level leaves a lot to be desired.
If you routinely travel at speeds 40,50,60 + mph then you ought to be VERY Proficient at emergency braking , most are NOT. Not slowing in traffic, I mean emergency stopping !. If you do not practice that skill set ( in a controlled environment then you seriously lack that skill set.
As far as laying it down, as a last resort and only as a last resort , you are going to hit what ever it is, the technique would be to shed as much speed as you can prior to executing this maneuver
the operator has been trained in the steps of doing this, with the goal of putting the motor in between you n the object your about to strike, letting the motor, suspension etc absorb what hopefully is minimal impact. This is a last ditch effort when all else has failed and performed by a trained professional. ( not for the faint of heart) Is it a debateable move , ? Maybe , but it does work. Folks who ride for a living have different needs , train often , than the average weekend rider .
As far as ABS , dont use ABS as your crutch to please yourself as an end all be all to safe operation, it is NOT

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By: musicalspirit

musicalspirit — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:25:11 +0000

Until you have personally been in that position, I really think you better rethink your logic. I was in a situation where I had to make a decision, hit the back of a car that had stopped and had no brake lights or hit the brakes and lay it down. I walked away because of my decision to lay her down…

By: jhidden

jhidden — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:18:15 +0000

Recently had an SUV stop suddenly in front of me. Oncoming traffic made going left impossible. A big ditch did the same for the right. Locked up the brakes, all was going well, then hit a damn tar snake and the bike went down and I rolled along behind it. I didn’t lay it down by choice, no contact, no fault, nobody to blame.

By: Kate Murphy

Kate Murphy — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:37:28 +0000

That’s an interesting take on the whole thing — more of an incantation than an excuse? Still, the serious motorcyclists I know always analyze their accidents, admit what they did wrong, and have a good discussion wherein hopefully others can learn from their (our) mistakes. A community of honest riders is a very valuable learning environment.

By: Everetthall77@gmail.com

Everetthall77@gmail.com — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:41:28 +0000

I don’t believe that any real biker believes anyone who says “had to Lay ‘er down” but we never call the other guy out on it. It is more so he can save face, kind of the right “brother of the road” thing to do. Yeah, we all know he’s full of s^&t but what the hell, he just lost his ride, probably banged himself up pretty bad in the process, we don’t really need to pour more salt in the wound by calling him out on it. Eventually, if you ride long enough, you do have a momentary lapse in judgement. Your mind might wander at a crucial moment, you might misjudge a vehicles intention, or you might even just hit a patch of bad road that throws you. Never a question of if, always a question of when. We are human, we can guard against it as best as possible, but for the most part it is inevitable. We all have dumb ass moments. To the outside world, the ones that don’t ride, they don’t understand that going down is always a bad move, and the fallen biker can get away with his little white lie. You know he was a dumb ass, and if he knows that you know how to ride, he knows that you know that he was a dumb ass. I say just let the poor bastard have it, let him have his cover up to keep a little salve on a bruised ego. He has probably had it pretty rough as it is, and doesn’t need some know it all calling him out on his one last little shred of dignity he has left.

By: kmoto

kmoto — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:26:53 +0000

In my sleepy little town with it’s rather small rotary, people are always entering without looking for traffic. Well, maybe they look as most times it seems like they are at least pointing their head in the proper direction, but it doesn’t appear to register that there is another vehicle there – car, motorcycle or otherwise. Whether they’re not judging speed correctly or they just want to “get there first,” they go and it’s something you need to watch out for. And it’s not just cars/trucks doing this (entering the rotary incorrectly), it’s motorcyclists (squids?) as well. There are a couple of sayings/thoughts that come to mind – the first is: you know what you’re doing, but you have no clue about the other guy and that’s what you have to watch out and plan for. Another that’s perfect for motorcyclists: ride as if you are invisible, because chances are good that you’re not being seen.

By: Josh Taylor

Josh Taylor — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:24:17 +0000

Gives more reason to purchase an ABS equipped motorcycle is people knew they could rely on the braking system rather than locking them up. Maybe I’m just a stickler for proper technique but it always bothered me to watch so many “experienced” riders rely so much on the rear brake as if they were scared of applying the front.

By: Justin Hughes

Justin Hughes — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:39:35 +0000

You know what really grinds my gears? The “Lay ‘Er Down” myth. I mean, yeah, sometimes a crash is unavoidable. But you still have enough control to minimize the consequences. Maybe you can turn a T-bone into a glancing blow. But if you “lay ‘er down,” you’re throwing that control away. You’re never forced to lay ‘er down.